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Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:56 pm
by Ruby
Hi all

After struggling to decide what to do after the Xtensafix "recall" I have bought this for my tall, heavy son: http://www.pushchairsandcarseats.co.uk/ ... ndigo.aspx I'm so glad to see that manufacturers are making seats to last to 25kg. There is no way my son was ready for a boosters seat at 2y 10m old, but he weighs 18.1kg in just his underpants - so he definitely needs to move to this seat. The good news is that my daughter should be around 6yrs old before outgrowing it if she stays on her centile! I will move her to the Izi Kid when she outgrows her Izi Go, and my son will go to an Izi Up when he outgrows the Izi plus! I'm definitely a big BeSafe fan!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:57 pm
by sammykins
I'm starting to think about M's next car seat, as her head is nearing the top of her infant carrier. I think she will move into S's TWE, but I am wondering what to get for S's next seat.
She is now 4, and *bad mummy alert*, I haven't weighed her in ages, but my bet is she is either just under or just above 13kg. My questions are:

- is she better RF or FF now?
- is the 5-point harness safe for older children?
- which ERF seat would be suitable for her, considering that we won't be able to have another TWE as there won't be a seat to recline it against.

Thanks :)

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:13 pm
by Yvette75
Ruby - yay for making a decision. The izi plus a lovely seat! I wouldn't yet trust my 5 year old to sit properly in a high back booster all the time (and he is quite sensible).

Samira, in answer to your questions:

- is she better RF or FF now? Rearfacing is always safest.
- is the 5-point harness safe for older children? - if she is only around 13kg then she would need to be FF in a 5 point harness as she is too light (and imho too young) for a high back booster. The neckloads in an accident in a 5 point harness forward facing are huge and personally I would never put my children FF in a 5 point harness unless it was a last resort.
- which ERF seat would be suitable for her, considering that we won't be able to have another TWE as there won't be a seat to recline it against - have you thought about looking at a Joie stages? This is what Shinycat has just bought for Ewan and is a really nice seat (suitable from birth - 18kg rearfacing) and would be perfect for Maissa. This would mean that Safiya could stay in the TWE until Maissa outgrows the up to 18kg seat by which point Safiya will probably be 7+ years old when she can go into a booster. Other seats that I would buy for an older child are the Axkids seats, Besafe Izi Plus or Maxway. The TWE however has the tallest shell of all ERF seats (lasts to 125cm) so i'd keep that for Safiya and look at a Joie stages for Maissa. Margaret Bolt who runs rearfacing carseats for toddlers sells carseats by home visit within an hour's drive of where she lives in South London. I don't think that she charges for visiting you at home either and from what I have seen online she seems a lovely lady. She sells the Joie stages, Besafe seats and Axkids seats. You can also buy the Joie stages from Mothercare, toys r us and some halfords but Margaret, like the ICSC knows her stuff and that to me is so important.

Yvette

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:37 pm
by sammykins
Ohhh, I am in South London too Yvette, do you have a link of where I can get hold of her? Would be nice if she could come over so we could try out seats etc. Wasn't there a Joie recall recently though?

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:41 pm
by sammykins
the joie stages looks good!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:43 pm
by sammykins
Actually, thanks Yvette, she is on a local mums' group I am on too, so I have PMd her on Facebook. Thanks for your advice as always!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:16 pm
by Yvette75
Samira,

I see that you have found her FB page!

For anybody else it is:

https://www.facebook.com/RearFacingToddlers?fref=ts

There are some great pictures and lots of info on there.

Her website is:

http://www.rearfacingtoddlers.com/

The joie recall last year was precautionary. It was simply a shorter screw being replaced by a longer one but the child's safety was not at risk even with the shorter screw.

If you look on her facebook page there is a picture a week or so ago of a 14.5kg almost 5 year old in the Joie stages - that was Christopher when we tried the seat last May. It really is a lovely seat and the main reason we didn't buy it was that with 3 little people space in our car is at a premium so we went for the slightly narrower hi-way 2.

Yvette

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:56 am
by sammykins
Thanks Yvette - it completely escaped my mind that we had been conversing on the local mums' group about car seats, until you mentioned her name. She is popping over to my house on Sunday, so hopefully we can try out the Joies seat :)

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:11 pm
by sicily
Sammykins, I'm also I'm south London! Are you on the SE23 mums group on fb by any chance?
We've also had Margaret come to do a home visit as we couldn't face the trek to ICSC. We're getting an axkid minikid or kidzone - kidzone fits slightly better with the base in our bucket seats and its a bit more pricey but not too much more. She's getting both to try them both out in our car when she returns. I was really happy with how cocooned and safe C looked in it and in the Joie stages that we also tried out. We decided we would get the longest lasting one though in case there is no second child and if there is a second child, we'll address the age gap etc and decide which car seat to get for them. Hopefully by then we'll have a bigger car! We will probably put the carseat in front passenger seat although her head does feel very close to the windscreen... But presumably she should be snugly harnessed in the seat.
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Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:58 pm
by sammykins
Sicily! I'm on the Crystal Palace Mums group, but I'm not technically in CP, but still in Margaret's radius :) Margaret came over again on Sunday to deliver and install our new seat, the BeSafe Izi Plus. M looks so comfy in there, we love it. Although the adjuster strap that we need to pull to tighten the harness is really stiff (which is normal apparently), but aside from that, it's excellent!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:05 pm
by sicily
You're not far from me at all then. I'm forest hill/honor oak. We'd move to CP/Sydenham/Penge if we could afford it ha! But we're priced out of buying a bigger house anywhere nice around here so think we're going to convert our loft instead. Glad you're happy with the car seat. Margaret has helped out about 5 people I know round here already, she must be busy! Xx

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:53 pm
by Yvette75
Glad you are happy with your new seats.

Sicily - rearfacing in the front is perfectly safe. We have Jessica rearfacing in the front and my other 2 rearfacing in the back (with me).

Yvette

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:54 am
by blou1
I know there are some real experts on here and I'm really hoping you can help me with a tricky ERF problem.

I am desperate for some advice on which rear facing seat, secured by seat belt, would be suitable for my 20 month old son and would fit both a Nissan Qashqai (his grandparents car) AND a Toyota Avensis Tourer estate (his dad's car).

We currently use a rear facing Isofix seat, the Britax Max Fix,bought from Mothercare as his 'main' seat in my car (Peugeot 307) and it works fine in the Avensis too, but due to the very awkward location of the Qashqai's ISOFIX anchors, we have not been able to install it in the grandparents car, despite many attempts. So, we're looking for a belt fix seat that would suit both the Qashqai and the Avensis.

Both the Avensis and my car have pretty sloped back seats, and with the Max Fix we have currently, there isn't much of a recline which isn't ideal for when my son sleeps in the seat. Not the biggest issue I know, but mentioning in case that effects anything in terms of fit etc

I don't have any retailers close by where I can try out different ERF seats and get an expert opinion.

Having contacted both the CarSeat.se place and ICSC it seems that my options are:

Britax Hi-Way - passed the 'Swedish Test' and only available to buy online from CarSeat.se (ICSC can only sell if you go to the store)
Britax Max-Way - passed the 'Swedish Test' and only available to buy online from CarSeat.se (ICSC can only sell if you go to the store
Britax Two Way Elite - doesn't seem to have passed the 'Swedish Test' but can be bought online from both CarSeat.se and ICSC

Which is more likely to fit the widest range of cars? What is the Swedish test and is the Two Way Elite a bad choice if it hasn't passed it?

One final option I've looked at is the Joie Stages but I've no idea how that compares in safety terms to the Britax seats above and I know it fits by the seatbelt going around the back of the car seat, like a Cabriofix. Problem is, the seat belts in the Avensis are too short to fit the Cabriofix so I'm guessing they wouldn't fit the Stages either, and I don't know about the Qashqai...?

My head is bursting with some many things to consider. I'm half tempted to just buy a FF seat, but knowing now how much safer ERF are, I just can't!
But ERF seats are expensive enough as it is and I'm gutted that we're having to buy a second cos of the Qashqai / ISOFIX issues so want to make sure that whatever we buy will suit both the Qashqai and the Avensis.

Help, please?! Thank you!!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:55 am
by blou1
Oh, forgot to say that my son is above average on height and weight!

Re: Extended rear facing carseats and other carseat question

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:21 am
by shinycat
we have both Stages and TWE for my two kids. I don't know what the Swedish Test is either, but the TWE is a really good seat. It has the bonus of using a fairly short length of belt and does fit a Qashqai (my Inlaws have one). The Stages def does not fit the Quashqai as you have pointed out the belt is too short, which is a pity as it is the best value seat. Regarding the recline of seats you can use a rolled up towel to give yourself some more recline. I would say the TWE is a very good option, but canott compare to the other two Britax seats as I haven't tried either of them.