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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby shinycat » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:46 pm

I was wondering if anyone has any advice on how to approach BLW with a baby with dairy intolerance? We've not had any kind of medical diagnosis, but since starting weaning a couple of weeks ago he has been really grumpy, belchy and pukey, with a particularly bad episode the night before last after consuming a pretty large portion of yoghurt at tea-time. He was arching his back, bringing hs knees up, and crying in that awful screamy way when you know they are in pain. So we're fairly sure that's what it is. I cut dairy out of my diet several months back to try and tackle his reflux and it was pretty successful, so it isn't really surprising that he's having problems, but I had kind of hoped he'd have grown out of it, as I did read it commonly goes away on its own by 6 months or so.

Anyway, I have been using a cococnut-based milk on my cereal, which has calcium and vitamins in but only 1.3% fat. I havee been eatng goats cheese but have now read that with cows milk intolerance it is best to avoid goat and sheep products too. I've also read that soya allergy is more likely - I cut that out of my diet too just in case. I'm fairly sure I am not getting enough calcium in my diet so am now worried about DS. Also his calorie intake as milk/yoghurt/cheese is so important from that respect. DD used to eat yoghurt every day and various types of cheese as well. I'm going to have to think of alternate dessert and snack options for DS. And some recipes to replace the macaroni cheese, fish pie and similar which all had milk in.

Any suggestions please?
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby wishing » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:01 pm

Hi Shinycat - oh my goodness I haven't been on here in a long time, you have 2 babies now, congratulations!
Callum has cows milk protein allergy and reflux too, he's still on meds for reflux and was weaned dairy free as he reacted to my breast milk so went dairy free and also to hydrolysed formulas for top up feeds so he's now on an amino acid formula.
I was worried as he was so sensitive that he had a 1 in 3 chance of soya allergy too however he has soya milk on cereal and loves plain soya yoghurt.
If you cook from scratch most things can be dairy free if you try him on soya as you can use soya milk, and we use pure sunflower spread. You can get soya cheese too but it's a bit weird. There are soft cheese alternatives too but Callum didn't like it!
We didn't do blw but I'm guessing it's mostly veg to start, you can get breadsticks I know tesco are dairy free. What about pasta, toast?
We still don't do a wide variety of meals but I do meat casseroles and beef or turkey bolognese with sandwiches or toast for lunch, with marmite or jam.
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Kasha » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:50 pm

First of all don't worry about calcium, as you get it from lots of different food sources, not just dairy. Plus he will still bebhaving milk anyway with his milk feeds. As long as you include as varied a diet as you can then you should be covered with most nutrients.
BLW (and dont forget youmdont have to do it exclusively, i didnt with either of mine and it was all fine, i iimcluded some mushy stuff like fruit puree and rusk/porridge) should be fairly simple and i would imagine easier with food allergies as you are notmusing prepared baby foods at all. Toast, veggie patties like potato cakes, pancakes using soya yogurt (tho i used to make them sometime with no dairy in, just mash a banana, add an egg and some flour mine love them, i just add yoghurt now to make them go a bit further and for a bit of different flavour) you can make porridge with water, just add chopped fruit to boost the flavour (not tried this personally) toast but with dairy free or fruit spread instead. I used to just give our food tbh (or what caoimhe was having if they werent eating with us which was/is basically our food lol) and i dont cook a lot with dairy.
I would suggest keeping a food diary and getting a proper diagnosis from the doc. My nephew had a dairy intolerance (cant remember to exactly what whther it was milk protein or what now he is 18 lol) and by the time he was 2.5 he had grown out of it. His mum just kept bf him til he was 2.5 which to be honest she would have done anyway i think!
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby shinycat » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:44 pm

Thanks both. Wishing that is good that you can give Callum soya as it does give you more options I think. I will try Ewan with it but I think leave it a few weeks before trying as the yoghurt episode was not very nice! He has been so much better since we cut the dairy out of his diet, but yes, Kasha, I will talk to the doctor as I think it's better not to self-diagnose.

Thank you for the pancake idea, we did sweetcorn pancakes last night which were a big hit (although DD was massively unimpressed, but she is a fussy madam these days!) and espcially good at this stage as easy to pick up. It seems like a really versatile recipe, you can stick a bit of anything in really can't you? The banana idea is a good one, I must try that. I have found a website called the Intolerant Gourmet which has lots of dairy free (and gluten/egg/whatever free as well) recipes and I am going to give a few things a try - falafel and sweet potato buns both sound good snack/lunch ideas. I think chickpeas have calcium in too which is a bonus.

I am def going to try and avoid cutting down on the BF as quickly this time around. With DD she started eating really well really fast and by 7 months was doing so well she did start to drop feeds and I let her. I'm in no rush to stop this time.
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Debbs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:36 pm

Hi ladies. Haven't been on in ages as life is so mental (but lush) now. Just wondering if anyone has a little un with a latex allergy? Its not confirmed and were waiting to see the skin specialist who should then refer us on for allergy testing. My 2 used to have latex dummies and the bath mat was latex. Now their both gone his skin and chest are much better. May not be latex but just wanted a bit of info and advice if anyone has had similar. Apologieses for spelling mistakes, bloody phone!!!!
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Steph Pet! » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:09 pm

No experience of a latex allergy....poor thing!

I've a question....has anyone heard of an allergic reaction to something that causes blisters and sores in the mouth...a bit like oral thrush but fluid filled blisters????
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Doobykat » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:37 pm

Debbs, I've got a latex allergy but it doesn't show up unless used internally (mouth, vagina etc) in which case the area really swells up and is raw & sore to the touch.
I've not tried prolonged contact with external skin to see if that has any other effects, I've not really wanted to, tbh! :roll:
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Debbs » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:00 am

Sorry Steph but i cant help.
Thanks dooby. My auntie has a problem with latex so thinking it could be but honestly it could be anything. Shall have to remember til i know to point it out in hosp app just incase. Glad you mentioned it.
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Steph Pet! » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:39 am

No worries girls...I took Archie over to the doc yesterday as he was in so much pain and we think he's deffo having quite a severe allergic reaction to something poor little mite...it's just working out what. For now tho we've got antihistamines and we've been referred back up to the allergy specialists at Addenbrookes in Cambridge which is where we went to get his dairy intolerance diagnosed....fc they can help!
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby wishing » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:32 am

Hi all, Steph how is Archie?
We are now daiy challenging Callum, 3 days f 1/2 digestive biscuit so far!
Where did you go from there? Dietician said hidden dairy so biscuit, then some yoghurt mixed in with his soya yog. Just seems such a jump as its not really processed much is it. Is this the normal way?

Also d like to recommend a book Allergy Free cook book by Alice Sherwood, it can cater for no eggs, no dairy, no gluten and no nuts wig options for each. A friend recommended it to me and it looks good especially for older ones. Very clear and straight forward
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Steph Pet! » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:54 pm

Arch is absolutely fine now....we've narrowed down we think he's having an allergic reaction to something he's having at school so we've stopped all school dinners and so far so good. We've got our appointment at Addenbrookes on 27th Feb but god knows what they're going to test him for as I've really no clue what has been causing it!

Re:challenging we did the digestive biscuit route but didn't get any further sadly...he had some chicken nuggets on holiday which we later found out had milk in (despite us being told they didn't!) and he had quite a nasty reaction to it so we kinda put the challenging on hold. We're struggling with incompetent dietitians at the moment so trying to find a private one to get some better advice. I was told baked goods first before things like cheese, yoghurt etc. So maybe try a yorkshire pudding made with milk or some cake with milk in or bread etc....
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby wishing » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:04 pm

Thanks Steph pleased he is better now. I must admit the dieticians aren't always that knowledgable are they?
One of them suggested I try biscotti for finger food... Umm don they contain dairy?! Lol (this was months ago)
They have said 1 wk boccie, 1 wk yoghurt mixed with his then start adding an oz of cows milk to formula! Seems so quick!
He's been ok to the biccie which I great as he cousin tolerate hydrolysed formulas even, not been sure what his reaction would be.
Did you on, get to 1 biccie before reaction?
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Steph Pet! » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:13 pm

We got to 2 biccies without a reaction but then the nugget instance happened....I've been too scared to try it again since as his reactions last 4-5 days :cry:
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby wishing » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:18 pm

Oh the only thing we have had since Tues night is he's waking up absolutely screaming, it's been twice this evening already, we pick him up and he still screams and kicks us away so dwn again and up agin til he settles then put him down cries a little and suddenly drops off sound asleep.
Last night was 4 times, I don't knw if it could be related to the challenge as his allergy triggers his reflux or if something else. The challenge started on Monday.if he does it agin will try pay more attention to his actions, he seems awake though so not sure about nightmare.
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Re: dealing with LOs with allergies

Postby Steph Pet! » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:36 am

It certainly could be hun....when Harry has had something by mistake it flares his reflux up no end....
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